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/540/ Welcome to the Apolar and Post-Multilateral World ft. Tom Chodor

On "non-hegemony" and world disorder.

Tom Chodor, IR & politics scholar at Monash University, joins us to talk about a world that still retains the formal shells of multilateral institutions but whose contents have been hollowed out.

• What is "multilateralism"? Why is it an important concept to capture the US-led order that is now falling apart?

• If multilateralism was always in crisis, what is new today?

• Is the emerging (dis)order multipolar or apolar? What's the difference?

• Is multilateralism the historic exception that we wrongly take to be the norm? Why is there no going back to the post-1945 – or post-1991 – order?

• What are the prospects for a new hegemonic order? Isn’t prolonged chaos and decay more likely? 

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Links:

• Non-Hegemony, Tom Chodor, Jack Taggart and Ilias Alami, Phenomenal World

• /377/ The Locked-Up Country ft. Shahar Hameiri & Tom Chodor

• /357/ Lucky, Meaty Nations ft. Shahar Hameiri & Tom Chodor

 

/539/ Reading Club: Where's Our Flying Cars?

On the slowing rate of technological progress.

Alex, George and contributing editor (and science writer) Leigh Phillips discuss David Graeber's 2012 essay, Of Flying Cars and the Declining Rate of Profit. This builds on two of this year's themes: state capitalism (how planning and growth – or their absence – intersect with technology) and the pre-political (how technology shapes

•⁠  ⁠Were we right to expect jetpacks? And are we looking in the right place for technological advances today?

•⁠  ⁠⁠Has technical progress actually slowed in the way Graeber says? 

•⁠  ⁠⁠Are the explanations he gives for slowdown correct?

•⁠  ⁠⁠What political tasks does this reality impose on us?

•⁠  ⁠⁠What is the role of geopolitics and war in the rate of technological development?

Links:

• Of Flying Cars and the Declining Rate of Profit, David Graeber, The Baffler

• Science Is Getting Less Bang for Its Buck, Patrick Collison & Michael Nielsen, The Atlantic

• /59/ Übermenschen of Capital Pt. 3 ft. Leigh Phillips & Michal Rozworski

• Progress is in the balance between innovation and implementation, Phil Bell, LSE

• Global Economic History: A Very Short Introduction (On Robert C. Allen)

• Engels’s Second Theory: Technology, Warfare and the Growth of the State

/538/ Muskism ft. Quinn Slobodian & Ben Tarnoff

On the operating system of the 21st century.

Historian Quinn Slobodian and tech writer Ben Tarnoff talk to Alex Hochuli and Alex Gourevitch about their new book, Muskism: A Guide for the Perplexed, and why we should ask "what is Musk a symptom of?"

• If Fordism characterised the mid-20th century, are our times those of Muskism?

• What are the touchstones of Muskism that the authors identify: fortress futurism, financial fabulism, state symbiosis?

• Who is the real Musk, that of vehicles, energy, infrastructure, or that of the post-industrial stuff of social media, finance, AI?

• What does Muskism promise people? How does it legitimise itself – if at all?

• Is the state actually dependent on Musk, or is Musk dependent on the state?

• How much of Musk's right-wing turn is necessary to Muskism, and how much is contingent? Is the racial component central?

Links:

• Muskism: A Guide for the Perplexed, Quinn Slobodian & Ben Tarnoff, Harper Collins

• /57/ Übermenschen of Capital Pt. 1 ft. Alex Gourevitch

 

/537/ Letters to the Editors: Feb 2026

We deal with your questions, comments and criticisms from the past month or so. Key issues this month are:

• What are the wrongs of the postmodern right – aand left?

• Will the civilisational paradigm become hegemonic?

• Is Trump's foreign policy techno-populist?

• Whether, and how, to protest anti-immigration policing

• To defend or to smash the professions?

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/536/ Can Racism Be Overcome Within Capitalism? ft. Paul Gomberg

On anti-racism, communism, and philosophy.

Alex Gourevitch talks to political philosopher Paul Gomberg about his original and deep Marxist arguments for what makes racism wrong, why racism cannot be eradicated without overcoming capitalism, and the limits of many contemporary anti-racist arguments.

• What does it mean to "alienate" race?

• What is the harm in racism? How does it harm everyone, not just its obvious victims?

• Why does Gomberg argue that can racism cannot be overcome in capitalist society?

• Has official racism been replaced by official anti-racism in the neoliberal era?

• What does it mean to understand anti-racism as communism?

• How did Gomberg's communist militancy impact his philosophy?

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Links:

• Anti-Racism as Communism, Paul Gomberg, Bloomsbury

• How to Make Opportunity Equal: Race and Contributive Justice, Paul Gomberg, Blackwell

/535/ Postmodernism, or the Cultural Logic of Late Conservatism ft. Matt McManus

On postmodern conservatives.

Matt McManus talks to Alex and George about a Right increasingly shaped by the parameters of postmodern culture – and his Damage article on this.

• Who are the key thinkers of postmodern conservatism?

• Does truth matter anymore?

• Is "flooding the zone" an act of post-truth politics?

• Does all that is solid melt into advertising – and is it Charlie Kirk's fault?

• Is postmodern conservatism an adequate response the dissolution of the traditional “sources of the self”?

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Links:

• Conservativism as Postmodernism, Matt McManus, Damage

• Why only Socialism can redeem Conservatism, Maurice Glassman, Together For The Common Good

 

/534/ Is There a Doctrine Called Donroe? ft. Juan David Rojas

On Trump and Rubio, Venezuela and Cuba.

Writer Juan David Rojas talks to Alex and Lee about the abduction of Maduro, what next for Venezuela, and Trump's "hemispheric" foreign policy.

• What is the Trump administration's policy toward Latin America?

• Is the attack on Venezuela a war for oil? Or a war vs 'narcoterrorism'?

• What are the internal divisions in Venezuela, and could it fall into civil war?

• What are the armed groups in the country?

• Who's calling the shots in Washington: neocons or paleocons?

• Is the US open-border policy for Cubans going to cause a rift within the Trump admin?

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Links:

• How Maduro Sealed His Own Fate, Juan David Rojas, Compact

• Atlas Shrugged: Decoding Trump’s National Security Strategy, Lee Jones, American Affairs

• From Rogue State to Failed State?: The Perils of Intervention in Venezuela, Juan David Rojas, American Affairs

• Trump’s Venezuela Actions Are About More Than Oil, Matt Huber, Jacobin

 

/533/ Reading Club: Illiberalism?

On "thin ideologies" in a postmodern age.

The Reading Club kicks off with an exploration of illiberalism, a "new ideological universe" that exists in "a permanent situational relation to liberalism."

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• What are examples of this backlash against liberalism?

• How is illiberalism different from populism, conservatism, or the far right?

• What is a thin versus a thick ideology? Are we condemned to a 21st century of only thin ideologies?

• Is 'illiberalism' a useful term to describe what is going on in politics today?

• Is liberalism versus illiberalism just a terminal culture war?

Links:

• Illiberalism: a conceptual introduction, Marlene Laruelle, East European Politics (2022)

• /114/ Reading Club: The Light That Failed | Patreon

/532/ Is This a Paleocon Foreign Policy? ft. JF Drolet

On Trump & radical right ideology.

Jean-François Drolet, a leading researcher into the 'World of the Right', talks to Alex and Lee about Donald Trump's coveting of Greenland, and puts the move into its ideological context.

• What is the paleoconservative worldview, how is it different from the neoconservative one, and which is more influential in the Trump regime?

• How does paleoconservatism translate into actual foreign policy? What's in Trump's new National Security Strategy?

• Are we back to a 19th century-style 'spheres of influence' arrangement?

• Does the radical right's foreign policy lead back to a populist kind of isolationism – or to a 'civilisational nationalism'?

• Will Trump solidify the transatlantic alliance, or generate a rift?

Links:

• /461/ Welcome to the World of the Right ft. Michael C. Williams

• World of the Right: Radical Conservatism and World Order (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2024).

• International Relations and the Geopolitics of the European New Right, European Journal of International Relations, JF Drolet

• From Critique to Reaction: The New Right, Critical Theory and International Relations, Journal of International Political Theory, JF Drolet & Michael C. Williams

• Trump’s 2025 National Security Strategy: Goodbye, Liberal International Order; Hello, Radical Right, Lee Jones, American Affairs (forthcoming

 

/531/ Interiorising the Border ft. Ryan Zickgraf

On ICE, Minneapolis – and your questions & comments.

Contributing editor Ryan Zickgraf is back from Minnesota and tells us what is happening on the ground. We also discuss:

• If this was Trump picking a fight, why Minnesota?

• Do the slayings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti mark a step-change in who can be killed in the US with relative impunity?

• What are the implications for the 2nd Amendment and will this divide MAGA World?

• Does a hard border necessarily entail a hard, militarised society too? Is the interiorisation of the border inevitable?

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We then discuss listener questions on:

• What is important that Bungacast cover?

• The benefits of citizenship

• Capitalists paying themselves for labour

• The post-doomer personality

Readings:

• South Minneapolis has had enough, Ryan Zickgraf, UnHerd

• Enforcement Regime, Michael Macher, Phenomenal World 

• Minneapolis Is a Second Amendment Wake-Up Call, Tyler Austin Harper, The Atlantic

• ICE unloads, Ken Klippenstein, Substack

/530/ Urgent and Immediate and Impossible ft. Christie Offenbacher & Ricky Levitt

On the social turn in psychoanalysis.

Psychoanalysts Christie and Ricky talk to Alex and George about their article in issue #5 of Damage, on ill-fated attempts at solving social problems through therapy.

• What is the 'social turn' and is it another case of immediacy?

• Why are the social problems to be dealt with treated as both urgent and impossible to resolve?

• Is this a case of hyperpolitics? Is psychoanalysis actually white supremacy?

• Do the professions need defending? Do they need to accept their limitations?

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Links:

• The Regression in Psychoanalysis’s “Social Turn”, Christie Offenbacher & Ricky Levitt

• /210/ Reading Club: Psychoanalysis & Spirit of Capitalism

 

 

/529/ Don't Pick Up: The Scam Economy ft. Mark Bo

On Southeast Asia's scam compounds.

Mark Bo, organised-crime researcher and co-author of Scam, talks to Alex and Lee about his book, his experiences and why this fusion of gangsterism and speculation has taken root in the contemporary economy.

• What is the scale of the scam industry?

• How do scams like pig butchering, fish butchering, or law-enforcement impersonation work?

• How does organised crime structure itself on corporate lines? How does this fit with modern slavery?

• Do illicit zones signal the coming of a kind of "compound capitalism"? Is scamming a symptom of the death of the developmental state?

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Links:

Scam: Inside Southeast Asia’s Cybercrime Compounds, Ivan Franceschini, Ling Li, and Mark Bo, Verso

 

/528/ The Heroic Bourgeoisie in the Democratic Post-Colony ft. Sandipto Dasgupta

On the making of independent India – and its lessons.

Assistant professor of politics at The New School, Sandipto Dasgupta, talks to contributing editor Alex Gourevitch about this new book, Legalizing the Revolution: India and the Constitution of the Postcolony.

• Why was the postcolonial movement insufficiently anti-colonial?

• What is the difference between the legal and political meaning of popular sovereignty – and why does it matter?

• What was the hidden, repressive element to the Indian Constitution?

• Did post-colonial leaders create something novel, even heroic? Or did they fail even on their own terms?

• Where do the democratic and counter-revolutionary aspects of the Indian revolution express themselves?

• How do symbolic substitutes for genuine popular participation play themselves out in Modi's India?

Links:

• Legalizing the Revolution: India and the Constitution of the Postcolony, Sandipto Dasgupta, Cambridge UP

• /198/ Universal India ft. Achin Vanaik

• /417/ Has India passed peak Modi? ft. Achin Vanaik

 

/527/ Exit the Minoritarian ft. Panagiotis Sotiris

On the collective subject at the end of the End of History.

Panagiotis Sotiris, Historical Materialism editorial board member and assistant professor at the University of the Aegean, talks to Alex and Lee about class and the "national-popular".

• Is the way to recover popular sovereignty to "return" to the nation?

• Is there a contradiction between this and declaring oneself to be "in favour of open frontiers for migrants and refugees"?

• What is the meaning of citizenship in this case?

• What's the difference between Gramsci's conceptions of people-nation and nation-rhetoric?

• Does the radical right's "civilisational nationalism" offer the left an opportunity to reclaim a popular notion of nationhood?

Links:

• Rethinking the “We” of Emancipation, Panagiotis Sotiris, Communis

• /471/ Reforming the Deformed ft. Nathan Sperber & George Hoare

 

/526/ Come On Feel the Paranoise

On US derangement on screen.

The OG Bunga boys get togther for the annual end-of-year film episode. We discuss Ari Aster's Eddington, as well as a bit of Paul Thomas Anderson's One Battle After Another and Yorgos Lanthimos' Bugonia: the three films that together marked 2025, and which deal with paranoia, conspiracy, disinformation and unmoored political activity.

• Is this hyperpolitics on screen?

• Do these films serve any critical purpose?

• Is Eddington a faithful depiction of the society of immediacy or is it guilty of immediacy itself?

• Are we all fkin r*****ed?

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Links:

• /520/ Conspiracy Culture & Paranoid Styles ft. Catherine Liu

• Hell in Ari Aster, Tara Heffernan & Felix McNamara, Corporate Total Art

• /458/ The Society of Pure Vibe ft. Anna Kornbluh (on 'immediacy')

• America’s Unraveling on Screen, Monica Marks, New Lines Magazine