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RE-RELEASE: OK BUNGER! The Problem of Generations, 1

The first in a special five-part series on generational consciousness and conflict.

In this episode, we look at the current, vexed discourse around generations, and analyse competing theories on how to understand generational cleavages.

Guests include:

• Felix Krawatzek, political scientist at the Centre for East European and International Studies in Berlin
• Jennie Bristow, sociologist at Canterbury Christ Church University
• Joshua Glenn, semiotician, author, and publisher of HiLoBrow

Original music by: Jonny Mundey

Additional music:

Peter Kuli / OK Boomer / courtesy of Elektra Entertainment Group, Inc.

Liru / For the Floor / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com

/508/ Digesting the Four Ds

On disruption, disturbance, decline, decay.

We continue our attempt to conceptualise the present moment by looking at Silicon Valley-style disruption, geopolitical disturbances and 'polycrisis', and decline & decay along two axes: normative vs descriptive, and geopolitical and universal.

Then we deal with your questions and comments over the past month on: religious authority; Russia, imperialism, and the USSR; and the limitations to 'the national interest'.

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UNLOCKED: /201/ Reading Club: The New Class War

[Bungacast is on holiday, so we're unlocking/re-releasing a July 2021 episode that was previously only available to higher-tier subscribers]

We discuss Michael Lind's The New Class War.

Lind identifies new lines in the class war, between working class and managerial overclass, between those in the "heartlands" and those in the "hubs". How convincing is this account? What is his critique of technocratic managerialism and its symptom, populism? How convincing - and realistic - is his solution of "democratic pluralism"? And is this only achievable as a result of a new cold war with China?

/507/ Put 'General Will' in Charge ft. Philip Cunliffe

On The National Interest.

Aufhebunga Bunga co-founder and contributing editor Phil Cunliffe joins us to talk about his new book about politics after the age of globalisation. We ask questions about his book – and then put him on trial for wrongthink.

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• Who is the 'national interest' good for? Is it a domestic or a foreign policy concern?

• Why did the 'national interest' disappear from our political vocabulary?

• Is the national interest an abstraction anyone can rhetorically claim? Is that not dangerous?

• What happens if leading politicians – or elites in general – adopt the national interest? Would this be good or bad?

• Will Trump's re-assertion of US interests push others to defend theirs?

• Does the national interest stand against class interests? Is this anti-socialist?

• Was Stalin-style socialism-in-one-country actually correct? Has Phil come around to supporting Roosevelt-style social democracy?

Links:

• The National Interest: Politics After Globalization, Philip Cunliffe, Polity

/506/ Bunga's Been Juicin' ft. Jason Myles

On image-enhancing drugs.

Jason Myles of This Is Revolution is back on, talking to George and Alex H about his article in Damage on increasing steroid use.

• What does the discourse around 'fake natties' tell us about authenticity? Do SSRIs provide "fake happy"?

• If steroids are a short-cut, how do we understand the "work" in "working out"?

• Is the taboo on drug use completely gone?

• Are we medicating to counter the side-effects of other meds?

• How do issues such as steroids and trans reveal contradictory attitudes to the body?

• Have the links between body, image, sex, and eroticism been erased?

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Links:

• Self-Catfishing with Steroids, Jason Myles, Damage 

• Shedeur Sanders and the Marketization of College Sports, Jason Myles, Damage 

• /359/ Apollo Gets High ft. Benjamin Fong

/505/ Reading Club: Classes in Bourgeois Society

On Franz Jakubowski's Ideology and Superstructure in Historical Materialism.

We focus on a very short section from Jakubowski's 1936 book, and delve into wider questions regarding ideology, social totality, and the middle classes.

• Is ideology “false, partial consciousness”?

• Is Jakubowski right that capitalism is the least ideological social form so far?

• Is it true that the middle classes only come into contact with the commodity when it is in circulation?

• How is the middle class' social position reflected in its worldview? How has this changed over 100 years?

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Links:

• Ideology and Superstructure in Historical Materialism, Chapter: “Ideology and the Classes of Bourgeois Society” (pp. 49-52)

• OK BUNGER! The Problem of Generations (FULL)

• The Middle-Class Leviathan: Corona, the "Fascism" Blackmail, and the Defeat of the Working Class, Elena Lange & Joshua Pickett-Depaolis

• The Rise of the Professionals, George Hoare, Compact

 

/504/ Vietnam's Victory: American War to Globalisation ft. Sean Fear

On resistance and reform in southeast Asia.

Historian Sean Fear talks to Alex H and Lee Jones about Vietnam on the 50-year anniversary since the end of the war.

• How is Vietnamese identity wrapped up with the notion of resistance?

• Is Chinese influence as great as resistance to China?

• How is the ‘American War’ thought about in Vietnam today?

• How similar is Vietnam to China: defying Fukuyama’s thesis by retaining a state-socialist political system while adopting capitalism?

• Why has Vietnam achieved rapid growth and development while neighbours have failed?

• How is Vietnam reacting to being at the centre of Trump tariff disputes?

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Links:

• The Republic of Vietnam, 1955–1975: Vietnamese Perspectives on Nation Building, Sean Fear, Tuong Vu (eds.), Cornell UP

• /115/ Singapore Shangri-La ft. Lee Jones

• Post-Cold War Vietnam: stay low, learn, adapt and try to have fun – but what about the party?, Adam Fforde

/503/ Effervescent Decadence in the Third Modernity

On the end of the end of history and what comes next.

Phil is back on the pod, talking with George and Alex about the big themes of the podcast. In particular, we look at a recent essay in Foreign Policy by historian Christopher Clarke called "The End of Modernity".

• To what extent was the 1989 moment as significant in Beijing as Berlin?

• Is Trump actually Stalin (but in a good way)?

• Is Russia the revisionist power? And if so, in what regard and what are the consequences?

• Who says the choice is between "liberal democracy" and "authoritarian populism"?

Then, we take your questions and comments from the past month.

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Links:

• The End of Modernity, Christopher Clarke, Foreign Policy

• The End of the End of History: Politics in the Twenty-First Century, Bungacast, Zer0 Books

• Into the Abyss, Ed McNally, Tribune

/502/ Their Own Personal Jesus ft. Lamorna Ash

On the "return of religion" in Britain.

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Journalist Lamorna Ash talks to George and Alex about how and why young people might be turning to religion today.

• Have things moved on from the New Atheists and their critique of religion?

• What are the divides in Christianity today? How do culture wars over sexuality play out?

• Why do ritual, quiet, and the 'new monasticism’ hold appeal today?

• Is Gen Z's pessimism a type of apocalyptic thinking? Is it related to environmentalism?

The After Party, following the interview, is at 00:51:30.

Links:

• Don't Forget We're Here Forever, Lamorna Ash, Bloomsbury

• The Tyranny of Structurelessness, Jo Freeman, Damage

• Reading Club on Martin Hägglund’s This Life: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4

/501/ Reading Club: The Lower-Middle Class

On Arno Mayer's "The Lower Middle Class as Historical Problem".

We kick off the third block of the 2024/25 Reading Club, which is dedicated to the question of the middle class:

The abatement of class struggle between workers and owners has shone a light on the role of the middle classes. Beyond the resurgence of the debate around the much-maligned professional-managerial class (PMC), what is the true role of the middle class in politics and society? Who rules today – and how would we go about answering that question?

In this episode we discuss:

• Is the lower middle class still the main recipient/consumer of popular culture?

• Is the condition of the lower middle class in fact universalised across society today?

• Is the lower middle class a "classless class"?

• Is this class united or in fact divided? Is is the main site of political contestation today? Of culture wars?

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Links:

• The Lower Middle Class as Historical Problem, Arno Mayer

• Regime Crisis: The Persistence of Arno J. Mayer, Verso Books blog

/500/ Disrupt, Decline, Decay

We celebrate 500 episodes of Aufhebunga Bunga with a cold, hard look at the decay around us.

Alex and George plus contributing editors Lee Jones and Alex Gourevitch wrangle with four principal questions:

• What does it mean to say our era is one of decay or decline?

• How does this relate to the non-death of neoliberalism – its intellectual destitution, its practical weakening, but also its mutation and perpetuation?

• How does neoliberal decay relate to the decline of a unipolar world under total US hegemony, and the decline of the liberal globalist order?

• To what extent is the decay of representative democracy cause or consequence of the above?

And finally, as we have been asking since we started this podcast in 2017: what comes next?

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Readings:

• Geopolitics at the End of the End of History, Lee Jones, The Northern Star

• Technofeudalism vs Total Capitalism, Alex Hochuli, American Affairs 

• Regime Change in the West, Perry Anderson, London Review of Books

• Changing the Regime, Building the Nation, Phil Cunliffe, The Northern Star

• An Audacious Book, Roberto Schwarz (review of Robert Kurz's 1991 Collapse of Modernisation), Meditations Journal

• The new historical simultaneity, Robert Kurz, Libcom

Past landmark episodes

• 100: What was the end of history? 

• 200: Which country crystallises world-history from 1900-2020?

• 300: The threat of nuclear annihilation

• 400: The political oppositions of the next decade

/499/ Shame! Shame on Bungacast! ft. Taylor Hines

On shame, guilt and responsibility.

Taylor Hines, an editor at Damage magazine, talks to George and Alex about his essay "Fool Me Twice" in Issue 4 of the magazine, which deals with the theme Responsibility.

Remember, subscribers to Bungacast get a complimentary online subscription to Damage!

We discuss:

• Why is Robert Eggers' Nosferatu about shame? What about the Rape of Lucretia?

• What can Frédéric Gros’ A Philosophy of Shame tell us?

• What's the difference between shame and guilt?

• Do psychoanalytic thinkers like Christopher Lasch and Melanie Klein clarify the matter?

• Why do we need to Make Guilt Great Again – but not as affect, as a sense of responsibility?

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Links:

• Fool Me Twice, Taylor Hines, Damage

• Issue 4: Responsibility, Damage

• Do you often feel ashamed? Maybe you should, Nina Power, Daily Telegraph

/498/ After the 12-Day War ft. Eskandar Sadeghi

On Iran and its Axis of Resistance.

Historian Eskandar Sadeghi-Boroujerdi talks to Alex about the leadup and aftermath of the so-called "12-Day War between Iran and Israel and the US.

• Hamas and Hezbollah have been humbled, Assad is gone from Syria – how weakened is Iran?

• Did the 12-Day War actually happen? What prevented it becoming a wider war?

• What is the meaning of Israel's maximalist aims of regime change and regional dominance?

• Why is Iran now leaning into Iranian nationalism, even using pre-revolutionary symbols?

• Is a nuclear Iran now inevitable? What lessons will it draw?

• How has the region been reconfigured over the past two years? What about Saudi and the Gulf states?

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Links:

• Iran and the ‘Axis of Resistance’: A Brief History, Eskandar Sadeghi, Jadaliyya

• Culmination, Eskandar Sadeghi, Sidecar

• The Failson and the Flag, Golnar Nikpou & Eskandar Sadeghi

/497/ Are We Living in Fast Times? ft. James Hughes & Eli Sennesh

On technology, transhumanism, and progress.

James Hughes (Exec Director, Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies) and Eli Sennesh (postdoc, Vanderbilt) present a futurist approach to Alex and contributing editor Leigh Phillips.

• What is wrong with the acronym TESCREAL?

• Why is it wrong to worry about future transhumanism when we need to grapple with the technologies of now?

• What are the limits of bourgeois futurism? What is an alternative futurism?

• Has AI changed everything? Will it?

• Are we actually living in an age of rapid technological advance?

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Links:

• Conspiracy Theories, Left Futurism, and the Attack on TESCREAL, James Hughes & Eli Sennesh

• /306/ AI Capitalism: Inhuman Power

• /335/ AI & the End of the End of History

• /446/ The Techno-Fantasy of Perfect Freedom ft. Amber Trotter

• /488/ Homo-Techno, Homo-Solo ...Post-Homo? ft. Alex Gendler

• The Obama-to-Yarvin Pipeline, Geoff Schullenberger, Compact Substack

/496/ Insane-Washing the War (Which Did Not Take Place)

On the war on Iran that wasn't (yet).

Alex and George review the past month in the world and on Bungacast:

• The crazy will-they-won't-they of a potential US war on Iran

• The ex post facto justifications on all sides

• Where does "sanewashing" come from

• Ways to understand and not understand US political polarisation

And we deal with your questions and comments from the past month:

• Woke Dungeons and Dragons

• Being Safe versus Feeling Safe

• More on victimhood, authenticity and the PMC

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Links:

• Trump’s Tariff Gamble and the Decay of the Neoliberal Order, Lee Jones, American Affairs

• Sanewashing, and how Defund The Police stopped meaning Defund The Police, Inverse Florida, Substack

• Did Iran win the 12-day war?, Sohrab Ahmari, UnHerd 

• A Comprehensive History of Woke D&D, Mark of the Weather-Sun, Substack